Consider greige, blush, distressed blue or one of these other instant-classic cabinet colors, Try this classic kitchen combination for a design thats warm and inviting, Landscape Architects & Landscape Designers, Outdoor Lighting & Audio/Visual Specialists, Bleached White Oak Cabinets Star in This Two-Tone Kitchen, Seeing Green: Some Kitchens Ditch White for Mother Natures Neutral, Hold Everything Your White Kitchen Cabinets Just Got Better, White Cabinets Remain at the Top of Kitchen Wish Lists. My stomach-- which had been in a knot for a year due to indecision relaxed. Hi thanks in advance for your help We are having white oak installed and finished on site. I would bet it would come in at the same price as a "buff and coat" (national average = $3/sf). The refinisher used the 'trendy' finish that s/he THOUGHT you wanted to see. can you share any pix? The coating should not come up. Based on the research I've done, Nordic Seal has a tendency to show white streaks on the floor. By clicking Accept I agree to this, as further described in the Houzz Cookie Policy. Heres a photo of our family room. 2 coats of Nordic seal & 2 coats of traffic HD ? Different painters proposing different solutions to calcimine ceiling. What was really helpful to us is that the installer did lots of different samples for us and every new layer of the top coat changed how the wood looked. Bona Intense on White Oak I didnt want to pull up the protective paper but you can see the floor a little better in this photo. its been so long since I posted - Id have to read through my old posts to recall the sealer we used. Taj Mahal is an example of a crystalline Quartzite. I fear, though, that the amber color has penetrated the wood since a sealer was not used and I am stuck with a yellow floor. Also I highly suggest getting big samples done with all the coatings. I am attempting to coordinate real white oak with white oak LVPthe unfinished white oak is an amazing match to the Paradigm Conquest Windsor and Towerwanting to basically stain/seal the posts and rails in a way that changes the natural state the least, neutralizing any weed tones. He said mitering the edges is a nightmare (if you dont mitre, there is a white edge because the color doesnt go all the way through - at least the marble design I chose). The refinishers used "Bona Dri-Fast Natural Stain", "Bona Classic Sealer"*, and "Bona Mega Satin" (two coats). These were my red oak in a medium stain and you can definitely see the red undertone: My SIL did a darker stain on her floors and she says the cleaning is brutal. If that does something, it's busted, you don't need to test further. We planned to wait 6 days to move in and will use felts and place furniture down gently. @Gilligan GehrityI am lucky (at least where I live) to have a cabinet maker who #1 will fit me into their schedule and #2 is willing to learn a method to satisfy my requests. That doesn't sound like what you are after. They are *very* hard, and you will be hard pressed to find a coating that stands up to them), but it would tell you that the floor coating appears to at least be behaving. A red oak floor does not need sealant. They can use a big machine with a screening pad to get up most of that gunk. Not change the raw color much, 2. I know I've gone on for a while. BTW, we used Corian old fashioned solid surface Corian in our kitchen and in 2 bathrooms. (Side shower walls are white). This looks to be pretty natural with a very matte finish. :). Yep. After looking into the flooring situation I found that if a wood floor person says "it won't hold up in Florida" theirs won't! Milesi Natural 2k? One coat application to saturation, or (for best results apply 2nd coat 'wet on wet') Resistant to algae, lichen and staining. WebChapter IV - Four Eyes Were Reading the Passage I was running the head of my pencil-case along the line as I read it, and something caused me to raise my eyes. We told the company to put 3 coats of the Bona product on the floors. @Abigail Barber Burgum you can just go to their website to find the nearest dealer to you. Bona Sealers on my White Oak You can use Poloplaz Pearl sealer with Endure or Pallmann's Pall-x white seal and Pall-x Pure. We elected to go with rift sawn white oak cabinets. The only design mistake in the house (IMHO) is this floor - the sample and photos looked so different!). Any specific fillers recommended for the knots & gaps ? if anyone else has found a reasonable solution, could you pls share what you did and a few pix? Dream Spaces: 12 Beautiful White Kitchens, Color of the Year: Off-White Is On Trend for 2016, Houzz Tour: A Beautiful Nordic Dream in Sweden, White Cabinets Remain at the Top of Kitchen Wish Lists. I am sorry , Thank you!! @mtpo did you use a satin or matte finish? I did look at photo posts to get an idea of what product/color I was looking for as I wanted something a little more custom and different. WebBona - WM710013496 - 16.5 in. I appreciate your pros helping on all these questions. Good luck on your project!! It still should not come off. We are prepping for a remodel and I have been using my kids roll of art paper and taping it to the ceiling to construct mock ups of potential walls. If neither does anything to your floor, the floor coating is at least in reasonable shape. You can see how the quartz is not as white as the countertop. I've tested their smoke reactive and their Baro reactive Both can be adjusted with water or their "clear" so that you can get varying tones. Sie knnen nicht notwendige Cookies ber Einstellungen verwalten ablehnen. They don't like doing it - because they go through SOOO many screening discs (I've heard of more than 12 discs being used in one home). I prefer to see three coats of finishbut if you MUST save money while still using Traffic HD then you can go down to two coats. I got attacked on this thread or another Houzz thread by a contractor for mentioning Rubio for cabinets but I did a ton of research and looked at pictures and it is what we went with. Was afraid it would look a bit cartoonish or out of place. I had no idea that white oak looks different when grown in one geographical area versus another. There are MANY people who do NOT know they are 'clean-shiny' people until they purchase matte floors. There are some lap lines on the floors from the sealer. It won't be cheap but it will be fast. I hope these help someone! There are MUCH better systems out there - especially in the water based finishes. I'm sorry but this finish is not "salvageable". are you happy with these floors or wish you would have gone darker? It was another rude comment from someone who was engaging in further confrontation.Ive already asked Houzz to delete the post. It could be as low as $2/sf. It looks like you have SOLID 5" (that ranks as wide plank = glue assist) White Oak. Dear Doane, A well established hardwood flooring company (a "ma and pa" type store) will have the big machines to get the product off of your floor. Dry finish. Founded in 1919, Bona offers products for most premium floor surfaces including It was applied Saturday morning.". They are one of my very favorite things in my (soon to be) new house. I wasnt wild about any of the patterns. Paint them over a piece of white paper and the finish turns orange all by itself! Please help on base, crown, window, door molding size decision. So it comes in at 1025 or 1.25 X 820 sf (amount of flooring ordered with sufficient for waste/scrap. I have read so many wood floor horror stories. These people end up crying themselves to sleep because they HATE their floors (and the massive price tag they just paid for). ! Bona I personally love Quartzite. I screwed that up a few times. I have about 735 sf. Floors are already sitting in the new house acclimating and I know that I am not cut out for the oil finish.). Anything over 700 square feet for me is done in multiple days. Mega turns yellow. That means a single guy can take his time. I read on the Bona website (and others) that TrafficHD coverage was 350-400sf/gal. For my white oak floors - thinking of using Bona Natural Sealer or Classic or Intense. I do love the natural color. I found a highly recommended company that has experience with placing wood floors in the most humid environments Plenty of high-end homes have wood floors here so someone has to do it & do it well- just find "that" guy! Someone else on here suggested Durasupreme. No scrape, no scratch, no nothing. Its no different than my quartz countertop and backsplash that also should not have acidic or harsh chemicals, and Im sure most professional contractors wouldnt recommended against quartz behind a stove. How did you retained the natural color of the wood? There was a warning on the front door telling everyone to stay out. Je peux rejeter les cookies non essentiels en cliquant sur Grer mes prfrences . But some of the most popular recent kitchens on Houzz tell a different story, Whether light and breezy or rich and moody, these wood-rich kitchens might make you rethink painted cabinets, If you favor a little color in your kitchen, look to these spaces that run the gamut from light to dark, See how the most popular kitchen cabinet color effortlessly supports a variety of inviting design features, Tired of white? I am very picky with the stones I purchase. I still love the white oak but maybe with less wood cabinets maple will be ok. I personally see dolomite and dense sandstones misrepresented as Quartzite more then any other material. Cant decide! Nordic seal is not a easy product to put down, unless you have experience. Any suggestions on deciding one over the other? Achieving a Natural, Untreated Look on Red Oak Houzz Pro: One simple solution for contractors and design pros. I need to see the seal samples still but Ill post a picture of the finished floors in a week! I am on info overload. Two coats of Bona Traffic HD Commercial Matte This is a higher cost process, since it is a top of the line water based poly that prevents yellowing over time. Are You Gutsy Enough to Paint Your Floor White? (Mirror and lighting still not in). The installer did a great job with the install, he fell down with the stain and finish. First - The second pic you gave looks really weird. Or is Minwax and Duraseal the same thing? @HU-6868130 your herringbone looks amazing! Good luck! white oak floors, stain them or leave natural? if so, the bank may be able to give you your money back if you dispute the charge for red oak and the install. Our hardwood installer and contractor use DuraSeal products often and Bona Mega. @tkgriff Love the floor. Also did the installer abrade between the seal & finish coats? Please hire someone first before asking them to put down 'colour patches'. If you look for darker colors, you will see fewer color shades in the wood planks. Wood Floor Stain Colors 2023 Ideas and Pictures That's when we discovered he had never used water basedand that was the light-bulb moment for everyone. If you want a bit of "yellow depth" to the floor, then work with an oil modified. Will do.My two cents now that we are almost 6 month in. I asked for, but he never did, an all country white one. I dont recall the price of the lumber / the price our builder charged us (he ordered it on his account). I just had four rooms of 30-year-old white oak floors sanded down to the raw wood and refinished with Bona products. Get the third coat of sealer. Titan and Fortico can go on top of the waxes and reactives. I waxed it out. (Just read the dog drool threads.) As G & S states, the sealers will not AMBER over time (as in get DARKER) but the IntenseSeal and the ClassicSeal will offer SOME tan/yellow. By the way, did you use any fillers to fill the knots and gaps between the planks? The sand/finish guys sampled natural seal, amber seal and IntenSeal. A unique way of customizing your floor from a light whitewash to successive coats, providing a truly Scandinavian look. The good news is the installer will have learned his lesson: do NOT under bid a project just to win it. A VERY trchnichally difgicukt finish yonachieve. WebInformacin detallada del sitio web y la empresa: qhhsubiquity.com, +13012001475, +13012001768, +13012001300 The Ubiquity The student news site of Quartz Hill High School Also what do you mean by toned oak? It is the single most abused/used FINISH ('finish' means 'pretty) in your home. Just about the time I had to FINALLY make a decision (about a year later than when I started due to the architects goof ups and COVID shut downs), the Corian fabricator sent me a couple 4x4 samples of Glacier White. Hard to believe contractors would use your countertops as work bench! Find out how to keep them that way, Tired of tan? I told the contractor, if he could remove the first-coat finish, I would purchase the right finish for him to use. @tkgriff I love your floors and am thinking about going for much the same look! I didn't choose the Nordic because I thought the white pigment made it look unnatural. You will save a little compared to Traffic HD, perhaps $0.25 psf. Web108K views 6 years ago. He is a small shop and me and one other of his clients are the first to ask him for a "raw look" rift sawn white oak door. The cabinets and a new layout transform a once-dark New Jersey kitchen into a light and bright space, Its typically the primary color in gardens. Heres a pic kitchen isnt finished yet but should give you an idea, Blizzard fierce or butter soft, white can highlight shapes, unify a room and perform miracles on the cheap, Avoid going too traditional and too clean by introducing an off-white palette that brings a touch of warmth and elegance, From silvery ash to honey blonde or chalk white, light-toned floors hold the key to the pared-back simplicity of Scandinavian style, Rustic touches from nature embellish the white-and-wood palette in this remodeled house in Denmark, White too bright in your kitchen? We went with natural seal and traffic HD finish. Bona I also read on a hard wood flooring contractor's forum about how in the 1980s everyone's white floors eventually looked terrible because the inevitable scratches turn dark from dirt and look awful against the white. The training may be 'free' but the cost to fly there, rent hotel room + food for 3 days (and lose 3 days worth of income) and fly back take money. First - The second pic you gave looks really weird. The FASTEST curing water based products are Bona Traffic HD and Loba 2K Supra AT. I have a small house and should have maximized flow but didn't realize just how much planning that would take at once. Plato has the white oak shade we like - nude cream - but the estimate came in really high. We love our floors! Question - is there a reason a floor may take or need less finish? WebWhite oak refinish- Bona NaturalSeal. If you like to see a shiny floor RIGHT AFTER you clean the floor (because it makes you feel like you've accomplished something) then you are what I refer to as a 'clean-shiny' person. NaturalSeal adds the LEAST amount of 'colour' (either white or yellowdoesn't matter) of all the sealants in the Bona line up. My tub with quartz top. I disagree that it was not an attack on me as G & Ss follow up comment said, oh yeah, hidden message. @mtpo We are also considering the Bona nordic seal on white oak. @tkgriff which did you go with and do you like? I had just had floors done by a floor shop, two years of hospice requires me to redo them, seems a layer can be scraped up with a spackle scraper easily and turned dark ( like cherry wood does in sunlight but this was white oak ). In this video, Joe demonstrates how to use Bona NordicSeal to achieve a whitewashed look in a hardwood floor. After reading on the website about this particular water-based finish, I learned that while it might dry clear, it leaves an amber color tone--just what I did not want. Applying Bona NordicSeal to Your Hardwood Floors Houzz Pro: One simple solution for contractors and design pros. According to WFB's 2020 State of the Industry Contractor Survey Report, in 2019 red oak made up 48% of installed species and white oak made up 32% My guess would be red oak since they have gone more orange. A gallon of Bona Traffic HD = $180 - $200. If that's OK to do (ie I remember hearing it's a problem when you apply more layers like poly but I'm not sure) it might work for you. thanks, All! The builder had choices for us, this or that type of choice. All you have are tge home centers to choose from. WebOur new build has white oak hardwoods & Id LOVE to have them look like these. Also is he recommending abrading between the coats? Yes they can be 'walked on' after 3 daysbut moving furniture in is not ideal until 5 days have passed. I personally feel a reputable stone supplier and fabricator will educate you in mineral composition, stone formation, and inform you how and where the stones are quarried. I will report back once I have the application on a sample board. I think I would have done semi-gloss as a base and the matte as a final top coat or maybe satin as a top coat. Maybe instead of wanting it natural, I really wanted it lighter rather than a medium to darker stain. I have some anxiety he didn't apply the poly in the correct thickness. It didnt seem to show the variations in the wood, light to dark, etc, grain, etc. If neither does anything to your floor, the floor coating is at least in reasonable shape. Oil wax floor finishes are poor choices for cabnet finishes. Brazilian Floors did the installation and finishing. WebBona sealer to avoid uneven tannin pull due to using a water based poly, (especially on white oak), no stain, then Bona Traffic HD. Ive had 5 character grade white oak installed. I know one of the Milesi products in the natural effects side does contain a UV filter. It is the way it is normally done. There are FAAAAR too many 'dudes' out there that call themselves pros. Curtains will block the bookcase. It's a installer issue. what made you decide to go with natural. Some comments that NaturalSeal has a slight white cloudiness? Sample made on raw white oak during the decision process: two coats of Bona NordicSeal, top-coated with Bona Traffic Naturale. We installed almost 3000 sq ft throughout our home and it is the most important feature of our renovation. A best fit can also include their 'interpretation' of your 'vision' (not theirs). Thank you SJ McCarthy for your expertise and explanation of time between coats, drying time and curing time. Sigh. A new color true black is introduced by Duraseal. Fortunately, the installer is sending them back to the lumberyard to be replaced. My guess would be red oak since they have gone more orange. I originally wanted a chocolate color but realized I like more contrast between floor and furnishings than a mid tone would give me. Also, try calling high end custom home builders in the area and ask who they use. It was so clean, perfect match for my cabinets, so WHITE (no yellow, gray or beige cast). It's hard to tell how deep those scratches are. Right? So it looks like I must know what product I am likely to use before I can even find a pro.So I am experimenting on my own, trying to narrow down the options. Now green is having a moment in the kitchen, These design moves will add even more to white kitchen cabinets appeal, Find out the most popular countertop, flooring, cabinet, backsplash and paint picks among homeowners who are renovating, Neutrals still dominate cabinet color. They are light, modern, and show the natural color and variation of the wood. I"m just assuming you don't want to cut up your floor. It has been a nightmare trying to find this look in my area. If you like the look of your raw white oak floors then NaturalSeal is your best bet. Prevent the tannin pull so common with white oak. Heres a photo of our 7 Norwegian white oak before sanding or any sealer. I think we can make Traffic HD work in our budget if we hold off on a few things and I can convince my husband. BTW -/ we learned that the color of the wood is different and takes the sealer or stain differently depending on where it is from. If a few hundred dollars (or even more), meant the difference between loving my finished product and hating it, I felt having samples was well worth the cost. @widdy23 Seems like everything is taking longer than expected. I got the hardwax sampler of--I think--16 colors? Installing an 8" plank with full spread glue is EXPENSIVE (the labour alone is intense). The chemical composition of natural stones will affect their performance in your home so it's important you have this information. (The chocolate would have been fabulous next to it.) Bona Finalize your sanding with 150 grit and apply the first coat. I like it a lot no visible seam at the back of the countertop). 1 coat seal and 2 coats finish. However, I failed to visualize the tan natural against the grey bathroom tile. Find the right local pro on Houzz to kickstart your project. Would love to see pics of the InteseSeal, as we are considering the same. Training costs money. Is there a really hidden section (you only need about 1 inch square) that you don't mind possibly damaging? I'd say I send back at least 20 bundles a year that are not true Quartzites even though they are passed off to me as such. Here's how to see if marble's right for you, A couple remodel their kitchen to better match their 19th-century Oregon homes style, The cabinets and a new layout transform a once-dark New Jersey kitchen into a light and bright space, Avoid going too traditional and too clean by introducing an off-white palette that brings a touch of warmth and elegance, Sure, white kitchens are beautiful when theyre sparkling clean. My contractor said that I will probably need to use the renew oil every few year which I am fine with. will slightly darken the floors and sort of intensify the variation (the sample boards almost looked wet to me). My plan was boba natural seal plus 3 coats HD extra matte, but I didnt know about a next final step, please provide detail/product for final sealant step. Oh cripe I had a whole response written out and it went poof. I have my fingers crossed that I wont see white stripes when all the protective paper is pulled up. And I do find myself wishing I had done 3 coats of Bona Traffic HD - just to give them more protection. Many, many, many more professional grade finishes. I used no filter on the photos, on an overcast morning from different angles. This is a platform for people to help one another. My question to tcrp6566 is did you use a sealer first? Pretty sure they bleached their cabinets but who knows at this point. I love the natural, light color of the hardwood. And the Nordic seal was beautiful but it was a little cold and it didnt look as good next to a warmer paint color we plan to use. If neither does anything to your floor, the floor coating is at least in reasonable shape. What color are your cabinets and what color Corian did you go with? are you happy with it 2+ years later (and is it holding up well with food/oil stains etc) please share any details, like if you had 2 or 3 coats. Not a one. Three teenagers, a dog. In a Glass Darkly - Project Gutenberg Australia Is this permissible to use on cabinets. @Jonathan Margareten- I read through my old post, and am not sure if thats what we ended up doing. I've read mixed reviews of the Loba one last thing, Is your parquet the kind with slats/"fingers"? If you wanted a specific COLOUR range (but didn't say anything about the look of raw wood) then the finisher brought what s/he sees people RIGHT NOW wanting (because it is trendy). The matte helps scratches blend. Ill try to get a better photo next time I go to the house (were still not in). When it came to a finish, I didn't want any red or yellow coloration. bona That's like painting a master piece with 10 minutes on the clock. I completely understand the desire to keep it open between the kitchen and lower level because you want to keep the sight lines and feeling--but perhaps you should just "try" closing it off and see how it feels. There are a couple places where either a dogs nail or something created a tiny gouge all the way through to the wood - so the Bona is not impermeable. Those are STUNNING! Blue tape is where some contractors messed things up. WebBona NaturalSeal is designed to be the foundation or first coat of a three-coat water-based system, so dont just use it for all your layers, thinking you are being clever and saving money. One other question. Here are some of my samples. My installer did 2 coats of Nordic Seal today. @clairepope It's only been a year - so far they are perfect! If you are paying for professional grade products, just make sure you are GETTING professional grade products. professional finishes are sold in gallons only. We peeked through the windows and the floors are covered with brown paper. I think the choice will be between the Natural and the Classic Seal. The advanced technology formula provides speed and high performance for hardwood floor finishing professionals.
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